Reblog comment from Atheistforum about suffering and unreasonable explanations.


As I was scrolling the WordPress reader I came across this guy talking about suffering and why it is there. (link to the post down below)

He stated that some suffering is there to build our character. I agree, for with suffering comes challenge and with challenge there will be growth.

Sometimes we deserve suffering. We deserve it if we do something silly like put our hand in a fire. God gives us freedom to make mistakes.”

Though I am not attached to a religion, I agree that freedom of choice is a god-given trait and that we should be treated the way we act and think. Doing nonsense things should hit us across the face so we will stop doing them. Like putting a hand in the fire…

Then he loses me. He says:

Yet some suffering seems inexplicable, undeserved or disproportionate. Here the Old Testament book of Job helps. Job knew suffering yet the book says that sometimes the reasons for our pain are beyond our understanding.

So.. does he just give up then? Doesn’t he want to explore a bit more? Or is this book enough for him? Hmm. Not for me. Is it for you? No matter how intense our suffering is, there will always be something to learn from it, I think. The thing called the Law of Attachment will give you a much more profound understanding of what is “beyond our understanding” – apparently.

It basically explains how, whenever there is attachment, there will be suffering. And that this is the only reason for attachment. This kind of mentality is kind of hardcore, though.

Psychologically suffering is, and I agree, 100% due to attachment.

Sad about moving to another town? Attachment. Sad about wrecking your car? Attachment. Suffering from other people’s opinions about you? Attachment. Suffering from passed away parents or family members? Again, it is all about attachment. Some yogis would even state that physical pain is due to attachment to your current body, and they will spend their whole life getting rid of this one attachment. To no longer feel physical pain.

Many people would say that it is cold, foul, cynic and even unreasonable. But it is actually completely opposite. Detaching yourself from diverse people and objects or situations will allow you to remain unaffected by unhealthy disorders like stress and mood swings, and will help you to stay calm in all of life’s aspects, all while increasing your appreciation for fellow human beings and boosting a lot of other positive traits aswell. It is amazing.

Now, I’m not telling you guys what is wrong and what is right. Of course we are all allowed to cry when our parents die and that kind of stuff. I am simply trying to go a little further than what might be for some, beyond their understanding – as believing christians supposedly states, and offer a solution to the very subject; suffering. Okay this is beginning to sound weird, haha. All I’m saying is that there IS a reason to every kind of suffering, and there IS a way out of it. It’s simply a matter of how the human mind works, is build, changes and, with the right balance of devotion and reason, grows.

He kind of finishes of by saying that one day there will be no more tears or pain, that we do not know why it is here, but that one day it shall all end. So.. he expects it to just come from nowhere or what? I just do not see the reason in that. And this is why it was of great importance to me to write this post.

Pleasure is given to us, sometimes we take it. Happiness is one long stream of constant internal struggle.

Thank you for reading :) Have a nice day!

Link to his blog: http://atheistforum.wordpress.com/

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Why are we not ready to die?


A respond to a troll comment:  Andy, I’ve got cancer, can you help me? 

Being no kind of a wonder child, I can of course not help him. Even if the fake situation he put himself in was to be true. But still, it got me thinking. Why do we fear death as much as we do? Why do so many people who get diagnosed with cancer fall into huge depressions? I don’t know. All I do now is that it is hard to enjoy life in all of its aspects, ups and downs, if you are not ready to die. At least so it is… or was for me.

For a couple of years now I have wondered what it would be like to have a “timer” on my death, like the cancer folks do. And ever since I started wondering, I’ve always wanted to try it. Not because I am in any way suicidal or that I hate my life. I love my life and maybe I want to know what it’d be like to have, say two years more. Because of the challenge. I love a good challenge. Could I still find happiness with a two-year counter on me? Now don’t get me wrong. As said, I don’t seek death – I just find it very, very interesting.

So what is it that we normally fear about it? Is it the emptiness? The thought of never getting to see our loved ones again? The uncertainty of it all? The pain? Some people cannot find a purpose with death, and this is maybe what’s triggering the fear in most. What’s the purpose of it?

Whenever we in our everyday live’s do something that has absolutely no purpose or perhaps the wrong purpose, we feel something negative inside. Something ulm and gray. We don’t like it. If there is no purpose then why am I doing this, one might think. Well, same thing goes with death for those, who naturally seek a purpose for everything in life. Only, the effect of not knowing the purpose is bigger than normally, but only because the event is way bigger than what we normally do. Dying is a pretty big deal, isn’t it?

So how can I help those who fear death due to uncertainty… Well, my best advice is to pick up a book about spiritualism. Pick it up, read it, question it, ridicule it. But no matter how much you make fun of it, you will still feel an urge, no matter how small it may be, to know more. Because a really good spiritual author or book will talk to your innermost desires. The desire to expand your mind, your horizon. (keep in mind that, like some business men, some “spiritualists” or self-proclaimed shamans will only try to earn money and thereby lead you to bullshit)

How can spiritualism open my horizons? It’s just a bunch of imaginary fairy tales, some might think.

Well.. what you will discover is that a lot of these theories and ideologies are actually based on the most basic psychology and biology. This you will have to discover for yourself, though.

SO! I will end this post in a minute, it got ahead of me already.

When you have woken up your interest for what lies beyond, I can only advice you to go out in the world, seek different cultures, different mindsets, try to find some people who have been “addicted” to spiritualism all of their live’s. I have had so many experiences that almost cannot be explained and believed with these wise people who I simply HAVE to believe in it now. There is no reason for me not to agree with it simply because the proof was given to me, when I was ready to receive it. Books -> adventure -> enlightenment. This was the formula, the path for me.

To wrap everything up: this new way of looking at life and death means that I now know that everything that happens, positive and negative, is there for us to learn from it. It’s there to challenge us so that we may grow, that we may keep expanding our minds. Even death is there for a reason. For me, reason is that my soul has its own will and is completely in charge of my life. It will simply choose when to pause its learning process, only to return in another body later. This may sound idiotic to some, but for me this is very, very calming to know.

Now I don’t fear death.

Later I will write about the experiences I’ve had that made it so clear for me.

Thanks for reading. Means a lot to me (:

Please keep writing questions about life, it is very educational for me. Very!